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Nov 14, 2019 20:11:22 GMT -7
Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 20:11:22 GMT -7
Name: Eleazar Age: 6 Sex: Stallion Alliance: Dark Breed: Irish sport horse x Paso Fino Height: 17hh Pelt Color: Palomino Eye Color: Orange Markings: None Residence: Ittudale
Eleazar is stealing a filly This steal begins November 15th, 14:11 AEDT and ends November 18th, 14:11
You are both two, four and three And soon you will be with me Speech
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Nov 15, 2019 15:28:07 GMT -7
Post by aliyaah on Nov 15, 2019 15:28:07 GMT -7
@hecate - Unless I'm misunderstanding, I'm only seeing three hints in this steal. As of our rules, you need four. So this steal is invalid.
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Nov 17, 2019 20:43:07 GMT -7
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 20:43:07 GMT -7
Sorry, I didn't realise that 'both two' wouldn't count as two hints! This steal is invalid.
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Nov 17, 2019 20:54:45 GMT -7
Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 20:54:45 GMT -7
Actually, reading over the rules again, I believe this steal is valid. Taking away the 'both two', there is three hints in the body and I had one hint in the title of the thread, and I can't seem to find a rule that says that isn't allowed (and looking over old steals, it has been done before, I'm not sure if this has changed/I'm just missing the rule) I asked a staff member and was told that this wasn't allowed, and it's my bad for not checking, but I think it is?
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Nov 18, 2019 2:20:13 GMT -7
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Post by aliyaah on Nov 18, 2019 2:20:13 GMT -7
No it is not. You did not clarify with me, which you should have done. Seeing as I stated it was invalid, why would other members have blocked it? So no, it is not valid this time around. If you had checked with me and clarified that the "both two" was two hints, then it would have been okay!
And I will clarify in the future, hints are not allowed in the title of the thread and as far as I'm aware never have been. I will make sure that is cleared up in the rules.
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Nov 18, 2019 3:31:30 GMT -7
Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 3:31:30 GMT -7
The steal involved you, so I went to another staff member about it and was told that 'both two' wasn't allowed (as well as no hints in titles), so found no need to bring it up with you. It wasn't until I did my own research that I found out it should have been valid, and that's on me. Just thought I'd point it out that I should have been allowed to post the results before being deemed invalid.
I have found a lot of past, successful, steal where the thread title has been used as a hint and found no other rules saying otherwise. one two three four five + many many more. So changing the rules, or rather making it clear that this isn't allowed, will definitely benefit members who are trying to get some activity going
It's all fine though, I'm not too fussed, was just doing it to generate some plots.
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Nov 18, 2019 9:18:04 GMT -7
Post by aliyaah on Nov 18, 2019 9:18:04 GMT -7
@hecate
I believed you when you said there was other examples AND that I would clarify this in the rules, so I'm really unsure why you felt the need to go out of your way to essentially "show me up" this way.
And no, it still should not have been valid because my comment, again, would deter others from posting blocks - I actually specifically told people not to because by all accounts, I believed it to be invalid. And indeed, if that was the case that you did not want to talk to ME, I have two co-admins and one g-mod who would have been more than willing to help you out with this. I will have you know that I did verify with other staff members to look at this steal to help me find clues in case I was missing the fourth clue, before I posted to you saying it was invalid - so this was not all coming from me.
And what you have to understand as well is that rules change. So finding examples of the past is not always the most appropriate thing to do, because there was possibly discussions behind the scenes, mass pm's sent out about rule changes, etcetera. Speaking with a staff member is the best way to go about it to have it figured out.
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Nov 18, 2019 16:02:48 GMT -7
Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 16:02:48 GMT -7
I in no way meant to 'show you up' as you put it, I just provided examples, but I am sorry it came across that way.
And I did speak to a staff member, as I have already pointed out, and was given incorrect information. I was also told that 'both two' wouldn't have counted as two hints where you said it would be, so that rule also might need some clarifying for future purposes!
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Nov 18, 2019 17:09:53 GMT -7
Post by ❅ Icy Dragon ✩ on Nov 18, 2019 17:09:53 GMT -7
Wrapping this thread up. @hecate , if you have further questions then please shoot the admin team a PM where we can discuss anything further.
When a staff member posts that a steal is invalid, contact that staff member or an admin/gmod. An admin was not contacted for this (after Ali posted) and for future events, that is what needs to be done.
The guidebook has been updated to clarify that hints are not permitted in titles. If you feel the need to research something, please contact a staff member who has been on the site. As Ali pointed out, site updates take different forms and members who joined recently and were not on the site for some time previously, can very well miss these things. Therefore digging through the archives will give no accurate answer and should not be used as a point of reference. If a staff member tells you something is not allowed, then it needs to be discussed with opinions on why and not using prior threads that may have occurred before site updates. You are free to PM any of us, Skype us, or even make group PMs at any time.
The staff member that spoke to you gave you correct information on the thread title. (Which it can be argued that a thread title "two" in a series of steals numbered 1-3 is too vague of hint to count, but I digress.) The confusion lay within the "both two" clue. The staff member you spoke to, spoke to me about this. However, there was a miscommunication - as the telephone of going between people causes - and the situation was not clarified. Considering there is always a margin for miscommunications, this is why it is best to respond to the staff member who first commented or message an admin/gmod directly.
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